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jmringuet
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r_sail
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| jmringuet wrote: | | For some reason I cannot open the sticky thread for reviews at the top of the page |
I thought that was just me.
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Fuck bloggers. What is this?
| Quote: | | Ringuet isn’t bad, but far more traditional in breaking down pages into panels with clear borders and eschewing the use of tables and graphs and vague backgrounds that has come to characterize Hickman’s art. |
Whatever. So he got it and is shocked that a guy who isn't Jonathan has a different style than Jonathan? Whatever.
I could see Jonathan doing the art on this, but... it would kinda ruin the tone. It would look sooooo serious. (Love you man) 
I just don't think it would work like it does with Ringuet, you know?
Whatever. Fuck bloggers.
Dudes, I totally BLOG about my drawing!!! |
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JHickman
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There's something bad in my initial post - it screwed up twice before, so I just deleted it.
So carry on here.
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BrikHed21
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I thought all of the reviews were fairly decent and even based on the least favorable review I would be intrigued enough to pickup the book. Obviously those of us in the know, you cool people and me, all knew the book would be good - I was just shocked how good it really is.
It takes somebody with a lot of talent, or a history of talking to themselves, to pull of this type of mockumentary format and tell a nice cohesive story. I was waiting for some split panel of David and Janice responding to the same question for a different point of view:
Reporter: "How was the vision conveyed"
David: "She was a crazy, ruthless bitch at times and never listened to anything I told her"
Janice: "We rarely talked and he was always mumbling to himself about monkeys and graphs."
JM - glad you are getting noticed for your lack of pie charts in your work. |
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jmringuet
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jmringuet
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| JHickman wrote: | There's something bad in my initial post - it screwed up twice before, so I just deleted it.
So carry on here. |
Is there a way to get some of that original thread back? I lost the links I posted (and some were good). |
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JHickman
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| jmringuet wrote: | | JHickman wrote: | There's something bad in my initial post - it screwed up twice before, so I just deleted it.
So carry on here. |
Is there a way to get some of that original thread back? I lost the links I posted (and some were good). |
No - I can't even get into it.... it's gone. 
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r_sail
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| jmringuet wrote: | http://wednesdayshaul.com/wordpress/2008/03/31/transhuman-1-a-review/
It's a really good story but it's not a comicbook. Huh?
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Well, after reading that review, I'm not sure that person even knows what they want... let alone what they're talking about.
| Quote: | | The Transhuman movement as shown here resembles something more like Apple or Google than The Avengers or The Teen Titans. In this book, super powers aren’t about changing the world or bettering mankind; it’s about money and who can win the Transhuman race |
And this is just another case of disliking it because it's not like something else they already read three versions of anyway... and fucking admiting it.
| Quote: | | Maybe that will change if this title moves away from being about business to being about super-powered. |
Aaaaaannnnnd this guy's an idiot. Really? What makes you even begin to think that it'll turn away form what it's been so far? What about Jonathan Hickman makes you think you're about to get some traditional superhero book?
Does this guy read anything about comics on the internet other than his own blog?
| Quote: | | This story could easily have been told in a couple of different formats such as prose or video |
Okay... I'm sorry, but I've got to cut this one here. You mean, the mockumentary could be told via video? Well fuck me running, I didn't think about that. Did you guys think about that? Shit. Obviously not or you'd have gone with video... or even prose. It could have worked as either.
| Quote: | that it’s difficult to say at this point that this is a good comic.
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That's funny, because hasn't he pretty much already said that it isn't? Am I reading him wrong? I dunno... |
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Dracko
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To call superheroes reflective of transhumanism is already pretty laughable to start with.
Imagine if they found out such movements actually exist! And had a history!
No, this is clearly an instance of I WANT MA SUPERHEROES MUM bullshit. |
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JHickman
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I wouldn't worry about it guys... if you read these things and take them seriously, it's not just a waste of time - it'll drive you crazy.
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r_sail
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Oh yeah, for sure. I must have cut the end of my post out on accident.
Originally: I hope you don't take any of these to heart, because comics bloggers,man, that's a special bunch (I like Abhay, though, he's funny).
...or something similar. |
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BrikHed21
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Since I am not the one being reviewed I look at them a little different but I did not think they were all that bad. Maybe I have thicker skin from my mom beating me with the spaghetti strainer all of those years. 
I think the real positive here is that the book is getting a lot of exposure and talk in general. Nobody said they have no interest in the book or believe it is a ZERO out of TEN. I get more excited to see the quotes like:
| Quote: | Transhuman #1 (Image Comics)
Jump from the Read Pile. If you thought you needed to take your time with "Marvel Atlas," you should make yourself a couple of sandwiches, grab a magnifying glass and block out a nice chunk of time to really absorb Jonathan Hickman's latest treatise. This time examining the methods and moralities of hacking the human animal and trying to make something more impressive, this takes the "Behind the Music" approach in a documentary carefully laying out the personalities and characters of the people who drag the species forward into the next step of evolution. There's a level of mystery as you see the facts slowly get revealed. Borrowing from the technological stories of our time (if you think iPharm isn't the Xerox PARC center and that Jobs and Wozniak aren't influences here, you're nuts) and even getting a cute shot at the X-Men (best quote from the "monkey page" is this: "When released from cage, the monkey tried to rape me ... Monkey f***ed cage for 30 minutes after being forced back in" ... and was Wolvermonkey a nod to that penultimate issue of "Nextwave?"). This is not bubblegum fare, this is vastly challenging and intellectually stimulating work -- you know, the kind of stuff you used to expect from Vertigo -- and you'll get every cent of your $3.50 out of this on repeat readings. Who is this Jonathan Hickman guy, coming out of nowhere with three brilliant comics in a row? However, one note: "geneses?" You sure? Nice otherwise. |
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drthene
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I found the documentary style to be the best part of the book. I really hate how comics are so stuck (or maybe seemingly) in one way to tell the story. Having gone to school in television production I just really dig how every frame is blocked EXACTLY like a director would set up shots for a documentary.
Page 12 in particular is just great as Heinrich walks into the frame.
SIDENOTE: I just got a DVD from my Dad of a documentary on Science Channel called "Downloaded" and it’s the story of the internet and as I was watching reminded me of Transhuman.
My only complaint, and this is about everything Johnthan Hickman does, is I really want it in a graphic novel. The graphic novel of Nightly News was a treat and I gave some away for Christmas. I think I will like Pax a lot more in that format as well. |
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JHickman
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| BrikHed21 wrote: | Since I am not the one being reviewed I look at them a little different but I did not think they were all that bad. Maybe I have thicker skin from my mom beating me with the spaghetti strainer all of those years.
I think the real positive here is that the book is getting a lot of exposure and talk in general. Nobody said they have no interest in the book or believe it is a ZERO out of TEN. I get more excited to see the quotes like:
| Quote: | Transhuman #1 (Image Comics)
Jump from the Read Pile. If you thought you needed to take your time with "Marvel Atlas," you should make yourself a couple of sandwiches, grab a magnifying glass and block out a nice chunk of time to really absorb Jonathan Hickman's latest treatise. This time examining the methods and moralities of hacking the human animal and trying to make something more impressive, this takes the "Behind the Music" approach in a documentary carefully laying out the personalities and characters of the people who drag the species forward into the next step of evolution. There's a level of mystery as you see the facts slowly get revealed. Borrowing from the technological stories of our time (if you think iPharm isn't the Xerox PARC center and that Jobs and Wozniak aren't influences here, you're nuts) and even getting a cute shot at the X-Men (best quote from the "monkey page" is this: "When released from cage, the monkey tried to rape me ... Monkey f***ed cage for 30 minutes after being forced back in" ... and was Wolvermonkey a nod to that penultimate issue of "Nextwave?"). This is not bubblegum fare, this is vastly challenging and intellectually stimulating work -- you know, the kind of stuff you used to expect from Vertigo -- and you'll get every cent of your $3.50 out of this on repeat readings. Who is this Jonathan Hickman guy, coming out of nowhere with three brilliant comics in a row? However, one note: "geneses?" You sure? Nice otherwise. |
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Hannibal has always had really nice things to say about my work - very nice of him.
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